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发表于 2012-8-21 16:01:27 | 只看该作者
  被书紧凑的情节吸引 简直是想一口气读完
  里面有血腥有暴力 有牺牲有道义但是最让我感动的还是最后一章
  汤姆去把恺从娘家接回来的时候那几段对话
  
  汤姆说:这个世界上,也只有你和你们的两个孩子,他不忍心伤害.
        你是他的老头子.
  
  果然自己还是少女情怀,这一瞬间就一下子觉得整本书温情起来.然后迫不及待就去看电影了.
  
  虽然是一致好评的电影,但不管怎么说都觉得好急促,好多东西表现不完整.大概这也是看过书再看电影的遗憾吧
  
  但总之 好书

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发表于 2012-8-21 16:01:27 | 只看该作者
      只记得老头子的那句“每个人都有自己的命运”和他的谦和友好对人的态度,不过很难效仿和坚持。有时间再看一遍吧,是本好书。下次看完写个读后感连着第一次写的发给大家看看。

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发表于 2012-8-21 16:01:27 | 只看该作者
  小学3年级时到书店,问有啥新书没,店员告诉我,有本叫《教父》的畅销书,于是就买来了。3年级时读本书的一些感触是:很黄很暴力。但是,潜移默化中也教会了当时的我一些道理:比如,不可以以貌取人(参见书中的某个会议中小混混和大喽喽的特征描写),要学会"有偿的"帮助别人(此处的有偿不是指帮助别人就得收钱,而是说很多,帮助别人某种程度来说就是在为自己积累潜在资本)。。。初中又读了1遍,高中读了第3遍。大学毕业读了第4遍。现在毕业也有些年了。感悟愈来愈多,收获也愈来愈大。简而言之,本书的精髓不是一些所谓"厚黑学"的傻瓜读本可以带给人的,只要你想去思考,本书带给你的绝对不仅仅是一个黑社会的故事。

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发表于 2012-8-21 16:01:27 | 只看该作者
     我也是看了某个网友说的,因为男人是这个社会的有力部分,有利也有弊的,看完以后总的来说,教父充其量算是一个组织老大,但杯中窥人,无限放大以后,才真正体会到一个领导者的不易,他们黑吃黑,洗钱,无恶不作,大把大把的钱啊~~~~~~~~
     但我们不能忽略一些事,就是意大利乃至整个世界都是如此这般的,杀人,掠夺,弱肉强食,但我强调的是里面也有做人的部分啊,好了不说了,早期的成功电影,很不错了,我想成为真正的男人,所以我看了。

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发表于 2012-8-21 16:01:27 | 只看该作者
  在中国大学里读美术教育是一件及其盲目的事情,你根本不知道你到底要学什么,所以你最后也不知道学了些什么。回忆大学里的生活,除了每天在快要迟到或者干脆已经迟到了的时候从寝室跋涉到教师,除了每天早晨昏昏沉沉鸡都还没起就被刺耳的广播叫醒然后闭着眼睛象僵尸一样摸起来做早操,然后中午继续在昏昏沉沉的午睡中挣扎到底是否还跋涉到教室去听某某老师跟你朗诵毛泽东思想概论,除了每一次考试都是一次赤裸裸的极其痛快的集体抄袭并且结果其实仍然只能刚刚及格,除了如此这般所有这些,好在我还读了这本小说。
  
  如果毕业多年后提起在大学里我获得了什么可以称为知识的东西,我会想到的就有这本马里奥·普佐的《教父》。

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  http://wwv.kaixin.com/kx2.do?iid=74b0c7b9-a41c-4e4f-a98d-a8d11b039a2e&rt=20  现在最风靡的网页游戏《教父》,像黑手党一样,壮大自己的家族,做各种黑帮任务,跟其他家族火拼,很多人都在玩了,你还等什么!

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发表于 2012-8-21 16:01:27 | 只看该作者
  主要是一些色情段落,如果翻译出来,估计就会被和谐了,所以还是贴原文吧。
  
  1,第一章,桑尼和露西曼奇尼偷情
  
  Now as she ran up the steps toward Sonny a tremendous flash of desire went through her body. On the landing Sonny grabbed her hand and pulled her down the hall into an empty bedroom. Her legs went weak as the door closed behind them. She felt Sonny's mouth on hers, his lips tasting of burnt tobacco, bitter. She opened her mouth. At that moment she felt his hand come up beneath her bridesmaid's gown, heard the rustle of material giving way, felt his large warm hand between her legs, ripping aside the satin panties to caress her vulva. She put her arms around his neck and hung there as he opened his trousers. Then he placed both hands beneath her bare buttocks and lifted her. She gave a little hop in the air so that both her legs were wrapped around his upper thighs. His tongue was in her mouth and she sucked on it. He gave a savage thrust that banged her head against the door. She felt something burning pass between her thighs. She let her right hand drop from his neck and reached down to guide him. Her hand closed around an enormous, blood-gorged pole of muscle. It pulsated in her hand like an animal and almost weeping with grateful ecstasy she pointed it into her own wet, turgid flesh. The thrust of its entering, the unbelievable pleasure made her gasp, brought her legs up almost around his neck, and then like a quiver, her body received the savage arrows of his lightning-like thrusts; innumerable, torturing; arching her pelvis higher and higher until for the first time in her life she reached a shattering climax, felt his hardness break and then the crawly flood of semen over her thighs. Slowly her legs relaxed from around his body, slid down until they reached the floor. They leaned against each other, out of breath.
  
  It might have been going on for some time but now they could hear the soft knocking on the door. Sonny quickly buttoned his trousers, meanwhile blocking the door so that it could not be opened. Lucy frantically smoothed down her pink gown, her eyes flickering, but the thing that had given her so much pleasure was hidden inside sober black cloth. Then they heard Tom Hagen's voice, very low, "Sonny, you in there?"
  
  桑尼和露西在一座小楼里……刚耍完,四处寻找他的汤姆哈根就在外面低声叫他了
  
  2,第五章,朱尔斯与露西第一次做爱失败
  
  Then Jules had his arms around her and their bodies, naked except for scanty bathing suits, were pressed against each other. Lucy was murmuring. "Don't," but there was no conviction in her voice and Jules paid no attention to her. He quickly stripped her bathing bra off so that he could fondle her heavy breasts, kissed them and then stripped off her bathing trunks and as he did so kept kissing her body, her rounded belly and the insides of her thighs. He stood up, struggling out of his own bathing shorts and embracing her, and then, naked in each other's arms, they were lying on his bed and she could feel him entering her and it was enough, just the slight touch, for her to reach her climax and then in the second afterward she could read in the motions of his body, his surprise. She felt the overwhelming shame she had felt before she knew Sonny, but Jules was twisting her body over the edge of the bed, positioning her legs a certain way and she let him control her limbs and her body, and then he was entering her again and kissing her and this time she could feel him but more important she could tell that he was feeling something too and coming to his climax.
  
  由于露西身体上的一个小毛病,这次没有成功。不过经过成功治疗后,他们成了一对儿
  
  3,第六章,迈克尔与阿波罗尼亚新婚之夜
  
  He groped his way toward the bed and could make out the shape of Apollonia's body lying under the covers, her back to him, her body curved away from him and huddled up. He undressed and slipped naked beneath the sheets. He stretched out one hand and touched silky naked skin. She had not put on her gown and this boldness delighted him. Slowly, carefully, he put one hand on her shoulder and pressed her body gently so that she would turn to him. She turned slowly and his hand touched her breast, soft, full and then she was in his arms so quickiy that their bodies came together in one line of silken electricity and he finally had his arms around her, was kissing her warm mouth deeply, was crushing her body and breasts against him and then rolling his body on top of hers.
  
  Her flesh and hair taut silk, now she was all eagerness, surging against him wildly in a virginal erotic frenzy. When he entered her she gave a little gasp and was still for just a second and then in a powerful forward thrust of her pelvis she locked her satiny legs around his hips. When they came to the end they were locked together so fiercely, straining against each other so violently, that falling away from each other was like the tremble before death.
  
  That night and the weeks that followed, Michael Corleone came to understand the premium put on virginity by socially primitive people. It was a period of sensuality that he had never before experienced, a sensuality mixed with a feeling of masculine power. Apollonia in those first days became almost his slave. Given trust, given affection, a young full-blooded girl aroused from virginity to erotic awareness was as delicious as an exactly ripe fruit.
  
  这都要删啊,服了
  
  4,第七章,迈克尔与凯久别重逢
  
  For Kay the lovemaking was almost like it had been before except that Michael was rougher, more direct, not as tender as he had been. As if he were on guard against her. But she didn't want to complain. It would wear off. In a funny way, men were more sensitive in a situation like this, she thought. She had found making love to Michael after a two-year absence the most natural thing in the world. It was as if he had never been away.
  
  重逢后的第一次,迈克尔显得比以前粗鲁,不那么温柔了。但凯不想抱怨,和迈克尔做爱是世上最自然的事情,似乎他从没有离开过她一样。
  
  
  我就纳闷了,连《查泰莱夫人的情人》和《失乐园》这样的作品都有全译本,为什么《教父》这些地方还要节译?操!

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发表于 2012-8-21 16:01:27 | 只看该作者
    一直以为通俗小说就是解闷逗乐子,看完之后,陪着主人公笑一笑哭一哭也就算完了,没有必要去深究去发掘。改变我观点的是《教父》这本书。不管是什么原因,这是一本我用了很长一段时间读完的书。仔细回味一下,值得品味的东西着实不少,不止是那些纽约黑帮的勾心斗角,更多的或许是连作者本人都没有考虑过的东西。
  
      关于另一个人
      这个人同这本书几乎可以说是风牛马不相及,两者没有任何的关系,但是他们却联系起来了。这个人是古龙,把他与这本书相联系的是他的一部作品《流星蝴蝶剑》。我是个武侠迷,凡是古龙有点知名度的书我都看过,当然也包括这本《流星蝴蝶剑》。刚读时觉着很不错,有与其他小说不相同的情节与形式设置。可是一读《教父》我觉着自己被骗了,两本书的情节设置几乎完全一样,人物构成也 没有改变,孙玉伯就是唐,汤姆就是律香川,孙坚就是杉尼,甚至连常用的话都一样,两本书怎会如此雷同?排除那几率非常小的两人想到一块去,再加之我翻阅了两本书的出版日期,《教父》要明显早于《流行蝴蝶剑》,我不得不认为古龙是在剽窃在抄袭!或许,还不能用“抄袭”“剽窃”这样的字眼,因为它们本身的概念就很模糊,很难界定。记得前些年闹的沸沸扬扬郭敬明抄袭庄羽案,姑且不去论是出于何种目的,结果如何,就案件本身和引起的影响来说,可简单的归纳为一句话,只要我名气比你大,即便是我抄你的,那也算不得抄袭。那可以这样讲,名人抄袭案,便算不得抄袭。所以这么多年了,没人去计较古龙是否在抄袭,同样的情况如果是像我这种宵小之辈,情况就会不同了,会立马有人指出这是抄袭,由此我不得不谈一下“名人效应”。看过鲁迅先生的一句话“我家有两棵树,一棵是枣树,另一棵也是枣树”老师说这很有深意,而我写一句类似的话便被定义为废话,两相比较,名人效应可见一斑。如果有人的某部作品成名,哪么他的其他作品也会被搬到台面,甚至连他做的每一件事说的每一句话都会被寓意深意,周恩来总理的一句“我是爱南开的”也可以被当作名言,我实在在这句话中读不出什么深意。我们可以想一下,一个人的一句话可能有哲理,但不代表他所有的话都有哲理,他的一部作品可能有深度,但是不代表他所有的作品都有深度。所以不能盲目的追捧,要仔细的甄别,该赞扬,该批判批判。古语有云:王子犯法,与庶民同罪。那名人抄袭也应同普通人一般对待,不论是古龙、郭敬明,还是什么名人,都应把他身上的神圣光环去掉,就事论事,便于营造更加良好的文化氛围。
  
      关于一句话
      让朋友低估你的优点,让敌人高估你的弱点。
      这是唐科利奥尼经常说的一句话,也是他为人处世的一句箴言。玩味一下这句话,前半句“让朋友低估你的优点”,古谚曰“逢人且说三分话”讲的就是这样,不能把自己的一切都暴露给别人,尤其不能自己的所有好处都展现给朋友,因为人都有喜新厌旧感,当你把自己的全部都给了别人以后,那么对于别人来说你就像一张白纸,再也没有吸引力。但是如果你让朋友低估了你的优点,你会给他带来意想不到惊喜,或者让他时而发现你的一个优点,不会产生厌倦之感,使友谊真正能达到地久天长。后半句“让敌人高估你的弱点”孙子有言“知己知彼百战不殆”,反之,错误的估计了对手是致命的,尤其是高估了对手的弱点,这样会投入更多的不必要的精力,削弱自己的有生力量,下手也会变得畏手畏脚,此消彼长,胜算便会大大降低,战场如此,商场如此,社会竞争亦如此。扬长避短便有了新的解释。所谓“扬长”是“避”长,指为人要低调,切不可太过张扬,不能将自己好处一并展现给别人,要留给自己以后发展的空间,不学才尽的江郎。所谓的避短是“扬”短,有弱点要改,及时改变不了,要进行适当的伪装,不能赤裸裸的展现给别人,读过李宗吾先生的《厚黑大全》,不妨用其中之道来"扬"短。总而言之,“让朋友低估你的优点,让敌人高估你的弱点”不失成为处事的一句箴言。
  
     关于一种准则
     《教父》中的唐科利奥尼一直在惨淡经营一种家族内部的准则,他不喜欢整个国家乃至整个世界所存在的准则,他在苦心营造着自己的规则,一种没有暴力机器完全依靠个人的关系,相互之间所维持的准则,人们各得其所,暂且不去讨论他的准则正确与否,把关注点放在他的追求本身上来,他追求的是一种新的准则,不满于现存的准则,引申一点,就是对现存准则的思考。我认为现如今最大的准则便是国家制度,其下有包括各种形形色色,因地而异的法律法规。那么这种准则的存在是不是必须的呢?它的存在是对整个人类文明的阻碍还是促进呢?从现有的历史进程来看,一方面来说是促进的,由原始社会到农业社会,由无国到有国,把生产资料集中并重新分配,的确促进了人类的发展。但从另一方面,却又是阻碍的,无论是古代现代,战争的起因多是国家利益的冲突,现今,对世界和平威胁最大的就是大国的霸权主义。这种存在已久的国家准则对人类文明的发展的利弊取舍确实是很难下结论的。这就更加需要我们的思考,不仅仅是国家这种大的准则,一切自己觉着不满或是不公平的准则,思考过后便是更正这些不正确的准则,创造更适合大众的准则。
     
      高尔基说过:“读一本好书,就是同一位高尚的人谈话”。但是我觉着,书没有好坏,完全看自己的心境如何,靠自己如何拿捏,书是死的,人是活的,在一本书中得到些什么,就看自己入题的角度和想问题的深度。《教父》这本书是我的“教父”,告诉我不论读什么,不用去它的作者,不去管它的属性,只关注书的本身就可以了,化腐朽味神奇还是化神奇为腐朽,完全在于自己!
  
  
  
        
  
  

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  巴尔扎克说过,在巨大的财富背后,都隐藏着罪恶。这句话,出现在这部小说——《教父》——的开篇。这位伟大的批判现实主义作家,很难得说出了一句这样绝对的话,也许很多人会毫不犹豫地否定它,但是细细想来,事实又是怎样呢?
  
  
  
  书中的“教父”——考利昂老头子,从来喜怒不形于色,于他而言,这是愚蠢的自我内心的最直接的表白。他以他的谦虚谨慎的作风而威震纽约市,乃至整个美国。因为,他懂得:“社会上常常会有突如其来的侮辱,那是必须忍受的。在这个世界上,常常会出现这样的情况:最微不足道的人,如果他时刻留意的话,总会有机会向那些最不可一世的人报仇雪恨。”
  普佐的描写,让原本十恶不赦黑帮行径竟变得如此容易被人接受,甚至让人们对于他们的所作所为产生一种敬畏和信仰。这无不是一种功力。在这庞杂的人物群中,你总会发现自己的影子,而这种影子,是躲在每个人审视自己的时候都不愿去承认的最灰暗的一隅。但是在某种程度上,在某些时刻里,作祟的又是谁呢?
  
  
  以下是我凌晨读完小说之后,罗列的一些感悟,有点乱——
  “黑帮”一词在意大利语中的原意是“避难所”,人们宁愿相信这里存在真正的“正义”;
  所谓“友谊”,即让双方都可以获得好处,而相互感激;
  学会同人“讲道理”,目的是摆明好处,让对方信服,以德服人;
  想要收服一个恶魔般的人,就要让自己成为唯一能杀死他的人并且要让他知道;
  一个人只有一个命运;
  不能让外人知道我们的内部的意见分歧,这是敌人击溃我们的武器;
  缄默原则,只讲重点,不说废话,对外人闭口,决不谈“正事”;
  忠诚,即会有回报,背叛是不可能得到宽恕的;
  复仇要有计划,行事要冷静,忌冲动,何时都不晚,不能失败;
  言而有信,否则不许诺;
  做人要狠,该出手时就出手;
  人可以互相利用,但是要抓住对方的弱点,赢得主动权;
  “黑白通吃”;
  权利要分散,而实权要掌握在自己手中,防止分裂;
  相信家族的力量,重视血统,有家庭责任;
  眼光放远,每时每刻为将来聚拢人才;
  善于倾听别人的痛苦,力所能及地帮助,因为不久可能会用得到他们;
  懂得报恩,只感恩不行;
  时刻审视自己身边的人,即使再亲近的人也会背叛;
  做事要绝,一旦决定,不留后路。
  
  
  
  存在即有道理,没有什么东西会无缘无故地出现在这个社会中。达尔文的生物进化法则——优胜劣汰,适用于所有存在生命的地方,有生命就要生存,要生存就有竞争。想要好好地活下去,黑帮的法则无不是另一种“良药”,它从另一种角度告诉你,当你所谓的光明的正义之路走不通的时候,就要换一种思路,那时你就会悔过当初,因为这里才是你的出路。
  
  
  那天和个朋友聊天,席间他说,只有暴力才是解决问题的办法。他这样讲道:有些人,说不听就吓,吓不怕就打,打不服就往死里打。
  
  唔,原来,我们的生活是这样的血腥……
     
  

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     许多评论认为,教父奉行的那套信条越看越有道理,地下社会有情有义。而我看整个故事,全部都可归结为“偿还”两个字。书里提到的信条,中国几千年前的法家们早就总结过。只要有人存在,这些信条就可以一直用下去。
     说到底还是利益分配的问题,没有什么真正的正义与邪恶。
  
     但是呢,每个人心中都有一个枭雄梦。自己定游戏规则,其他人都服从自己的游戏规则,自己是制定者、仲裁者、所有者。看上去真是挺酷的!
     醒掌天下权,醉握美人膝,是天下所有男人的梦想,也是天下所有美人的梦想。不然你看三国里,男人其实都想演曹操、在好莱坞里,男人都想演教父。尤其是这种亦正亦邪的人物特别让人着迷。做英雄要大是大非,不能有阴暗面。做枭雄不一样,阴暗面、手段残忍、智诈并用,因为结果能把手段合理化。
     英雄也好,枭雄也好,还是那句——超世之杰。放在时代中,评价一个人才有意义。
     这个世界没有什么真英雄,历史是胜利者书写的。每个人心中都有一个枭雄梦,不过照出的是我们小人物在现实中的无奈心态。

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